Sorry about double post...

I just realized that you paid full price for the captains sword + armor, so you got a few more credit there.

I made a example of how I might start a squad.
Personaly I would probaly start with carapace armor for my Captain, using him for CQC, but I really like the Hellgun idea, might end up with that myself.


Urban Fighters [100]

OFFICERS

Captain [55]
Hellgun [28]
Reflex Scope [11]
Club [2]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [96]

Lieutenant [42]
Autogun [22]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [64]

Lieutenant [42]
Autogun [22]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [64]

Sergeant [36]
Club [5]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [41]

Sergeant [36]
Club [5]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [41]

RECRUITS

HWS specialist [36]
Flamer [27]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [63]

Medic [32]
Total: [32]

4 x Infantrymen [100]
4 x Autogun [88]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [188]

2 x Infantrymen [50]
2 x Club [10]
Combat Knife [free]
Total: [60]

Squad total: [749]

This gives 13 models. A nice fire base with Captain w. BS 5 Hellgun, 2 Lieutenants w. BS 4 autoguns and 4 Infantrymen w. BS 3 autoguns.
The Sergants, 2 clubber and flamer hides and / or move towards object under coverfire. Medic just hide the first few games.

First on buy list is: better weapons for Sergants (maby pistol+sword) and armor for Captain and Sergants (Lieutants can wait), I would get Reflex scopes for Lieutants.
And ofc HWS w. Stubber.

After this its more down to personal tast.
One big pice of I would do is give the medic a vox-caster and use the re-roll for shooting with Stubber or Hellgun, it feels mega wrong to give medic vox, buy nothing in the rules against that.

Hope this helps give you some ideas what you can do with the squad.

-Skavenslayer

I see your point, but it still feel wrong for me...

Captain: Johnson ! we need a medic, thats your job now.
Johnson: Sir, yes sir !
Captain: We also need a radio operator. Johnson!
Johnson: Sir ??...
Captain: That also your job, here is the radio!
Johnson: ....

Being the medic requres traning, the vow-caster also needs traning (but not a much) is just not right that one man gets all the work, while the rest af the squad do "nothing".

You call hiding with the medic , i feel the same way, i would use him as a warrior to. But I also like the vox-caster near my Stubber / grenade launcher guy, now i can still get a vox-caster without "wasting" a warrior and not bring my medic i danger.

-Skavenslayer

I figure it goes something like this.

Captain: Johnson! You can't shoot for shit and we need a medic, your training starts tomorrow.
Johnson: Sir, yes sir !
Captain: Also we need a radio operator, Johnson you won't have a gun anyway so carry this radio.
Johnson: Sir I don't know how to use that??
Captain: You'll pick it up, just practice with it during surgery.
Johnson: ....

hehe... poor Johnson

-Skavenslayer

Hell, I think I'm going to have to steal the idea. And Johnson won't have it so bad, he gets to stand next to the guy with the heavy stubber!

The powergamer in me loves this idea.
The fluff player hates this...

At least he wont be hiding on the tables edge and be closer to the combat, so getting to the stubber for the kill also puts you close to the medic.. double bonus for the enemy

-Skavenslayer

I agree with both of you. But it comes to general population exploitation. I mean, you COULD make a cool story about it.

Johnson is the front lines, trying to save his comrades. After few encounters with Xenos, he was unable to save Marcus, the Vox Operator. In desperation he picked the Vox Chatter and gave instructions from his Captain to some of the men trapped with him in the fox-hole. They survived by a miracle... they all credit Johnson. As most of his duties are performed after the battle, he receives field training on operational duties and is assigned the Vox. Reluctantly, he takes the job...

That said...

skavenslayer wrote:

... getting to the stubber for the kill also puts you close to the medic.. double bonus for the enemy

EXACTLY.

Your version of my list is actually starting to grow on me, skavenslayer.

Fluffwise it could mean the ENTIRE squad has to earn their swords - not to mention their armor.

Thanks

Personaly this is how I feel also, it fits the fluff that the squad starts with "crap" equipment (cluds, dagger no armor) and thet buy the better stuff later, as they advance.

Its not that I dont like Swords and Armor, but I just feel its to expensive at start up.
In most "normal" starting squads, you can cut down, sword and armor, maby other expensive toys and buy 1 - 3 models more.

-Skavenslayer

Ran with your list, SS. Of course they got owned in the first game, hehe. Worst of all: Captain was taken OOA and... ROBBED! Bye bye Hellgun, Reflex Scope... AAACK!!

Oh well, better luck next game. I only lost the flamer dude, whom I have replaced. Bought some autoguns for the sergeants and the Captain (poor man's replacement).

I played Sturmm last Friday, with Teruna facing Prius on the table next to us. In my new home, with my new terrain. I think Prius made some pics, but to be honest I just wanted to play and didn't feel like making a whole report about it. Sorry...

I will post pics of my terrain, though, when I get around to it.