Combi-Plasmas are pretty good. It will definitely help when facing a GK elite army (AP2 for the win!) and it has the high strength and shots needed to drop nid warriors and even MCs. You need not worry to much about gets hot rolls because you are walking around in TDA. Combi-flamers are also something to think about if you are facing nids, as multiple flame templates make them cry. Just ask Mord about my dreadnought podding in next to his termagaunt brood.

Storm Shields: Don't really know what to tell you with this. Sure they are 15 points a pop, but they are only truly effective in hand-to-hand, and only when you are carrying a crap ton of them. I can honestly say that I only put them on my dedicated Close Combat squad with my DW. You however are in even more of a quandry, because you have to decided whether or not you want those power weapon attacks (replacing the storm bolter with the SS) or the shots (replacing the power weapon with the SS). All I can really say is play around with it, and see what fits your playing style.

The biggest thing about this is you are only looking at a 22 model count at 1500 points. Which means this army should stride forward and hold out the middle. I would even go so far as to say castle up in the middle and just dakka whatever come close with focused firepower. You should be very hesitent to push forward into close combat, and only do so when you are left without any other option (for example that you would end up taking a charge from a MC or something just as nasty).

The other thing to think about is dropping the Rune Priest, taking off all the combi weapons, and that gets you enough points to bring in another squad of WG with all the weapon options I mentioned before and one combi-weapon.

Mudboy: You only loose one shot beyond 12" per WG, and only then its one shot against an infantry type unit. Long range fire power is mostly anti-tank, so if you are firing at an anti-tank weapon at a vehicle you are wasting those shots anyways. Those close range meltas are great for popping tanks up close, thereby allowing the WG squads to crunch your opponent in hand-to-hand. Past turn 1, he shouldn't be shooting beyond that range anyways, especially if you are going to midfield denial your opponent. 5 shots of melta might be a bit much, but you don't have to blast them all off on one round of shooting. Fire off three meltas, and hold two of them in reserve for further targets of opportunity on later turns. With 5th edition being the pinnacle of Mech armies, meltas across the entire army is almost a must, ESPECIALLY with such a low model count and lack of anti-tank.

Revised Army:

Grimnar - 275

#1 - 245
WG - Combi-weapon, Wolf Claw
WG - Storm Bolter, Frost Weapon
WG - Storm Bolter, Chain Fist
WG - Storm Bolter, Thunder Hammer
WG - Storm Bolter, Power Weapon, CML

#2 - 245
WG - Combi-weapon, Frost Weapon
WG - Storm Bolter, Wolf Claw
WG - Storm Bolter, Chain Fist
WG - Storm Bolter, Thunder Hammer
WG - Storm Bolter, Power Weapon, CML

#3 - 245
WG - Combi-weapon, Chain Fist
WG - Storm Bolter, Frost Weapon
WG - Storm Bolter, Wolf Claw
WG - Storm Bolter, Thunder Hammer
WG - Storm Bolter, Power Weapon, CML

#4 - 245
WG - Combi-weapon, Thunder Hammer
WG - Storm Bolter, Frost Weapon
WG - Storm Bolter, Chain Fist
WG - Storm Bolter, Wolf Claw
WG - Storm Bolter, Power Weapon, CML

#5 - 245
WG - Combi-weapon, Power Weapon, CML
WG - Storm Bolter, Frost Weapon
WG - Storm Bolter, Chain Fist
WG - Storm Bolter, Thunder Hammer
WG - Storm Bolter, Wolf Claw

1500 points even, giving you total model count of 26, with 10 CML shots, and whatever combination of combi-weapons you choose to place on them. Each combi-weapon is on a different model for each squad, since some tournaments have comp scores with rules that dictate loss of points in the tourney for duplicate squads (sneaky right??). Granted there isn't any storm shields......but that shouldn't be to much of an issue.

This is a great discussions of the minds. Makes me feel DUMB... how can you guys think of those lists is beyond me. Hell, at least I accept my roll as everyone's favorite 40k-punching bag!

mudboy wrote:

However DoZer is an old man and old men are often right

YOU BEEN CALLED OLD!!!! HAHAHAH!!! THIS SHOULD BE MY NEW SIGNATURE!!!!

Ha ha crap. I didn't notice that. I'm 26

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I was wondering if you (laney) had done any more work on this army? Would love to see it painted up, esp. the Lugft Huron model you mentioned in the first post. Also, as I'm currently playing with the idea of doing a logan wing army, I was wondering how other people armed their Lone Wolves - I heard of one guy who used three lone wolves, each armed with a chainfist and a storm shield, and deployed as dreadnaught killers. Is this worth the conversion effort?

Sparrow2z: There is NO such thing as Thread Necromancy here... it is NOT your fault you just arrive to the party! You find something you are interested... POST away!

Laney: So... updates??

It's interesting that this thread has resurfaced now... I used the previous termies that I bought for the bloodwing in the half finshed nurgle army currently residing in my shed.

Huron from Christmas 2010 is built but still unpainted and I've been toying with the idea of doing a 'proper' deathwing using forgeworld pads, termies, bitz, a contemptor and anything else I can lay my hands on (with the required landraider too). Basically, spending more money I don't have.

And now we have the prisoner exchange - so I must convert a super cool (probably IG or chaos marine - truescale for the win!) for the exchange.

Basically, I need to spend less money and paint some stuff instead!

Cheers Laney

The "Half-Finished" Nurgle army you keep in your shed?? Mate, do me a favour - put some pics up of that. Would love to see your take on that, esp. after seeing your Chaos BB squad.

And, you know, if that Huron is just too much of a bother, feel free to send it my way...

Here's the link

http://www.deathsquadsgame.com/t2000p30-40k-armies-on-parade-hopefully-army-legion-of-rust-nurgle

The idea was to complete the army in a speed painting style (simple techniques - not much finesse!)

I have done more than this - but mostly just basecoated stuff.

Laney:D