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Lord GreyWolf



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PostSubject: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:25 pm

NICON 2011
Death Squads Tournament


Event: Death Squads Tournament
Where: Hamilton, New Zealand
When: Queens Birthday Weekend.
Tournament Format: TBA
Tournament Fees: TBA
Organizer: Alan [aka LordGreyWolf]

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We got it our first Death Squads tournament. I've under 12 months to get the tournament rules sorted/polished and trialed before NICON 2011.

Death Squads Death Squads cheers bounce cheers bounce cheers Death Squads Death Squads

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:41 pm

Congratulations!

I do not know EXACTLY how you could judge :DS as a competition... I would suggest requiring players to write an Squad introduction (at least 3 paragraphs) and a battle report (at least 2 paragraphs) of each game from their Squad's perspective. At the end, you will have a VERY nice story of the same 'event' in 'multiple angles'. For the best story (player's vote), I would like to offer a TROPHY. Yes, I want to build some nice prizes.

Crap.. I just volunteered for more work! Just Kidding


PS: On a technical note... it is "Death Squads"... I took the liberty of changing the post. Just Kidding

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:04 am

Sounds great, hopefully I'll be able to go.
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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:06 am

What is the dates for "Labour" Weekend?

Sounds awesome!
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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:45 pm

Da Bank wrote:
What is the dates for "Labour" Weekend?

Sounds awesome!


Bugga
was meant to be Queen's Birthday Weekend not Labour weekend.
good spotting Da Bank.

Queen's Birthday this year was 5th,6th and 7th of June. Not sure what dates will be next year. I think its usually the first weekend of June but I could be wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:04 pm

I ran the 40k Tournament at NiCon this year and am willing to run the Death Squads tourny at Ham's next year.

Looking at as an organisers point of view the rules for running it would have to be so the squads themselves get no upgrades for the next battle although thinking about it (it could add a new level to the games on the weekend). There would be about seven games the weekend (ideal??).

Just thoughts at this stage.

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:22 pm

Ah yes, the Queen's Birthday. You mean Freddie Mercury's birthday, right?






Khalek

That is a great idea. I would also skip "leveling" to go more with earning credits and only giving a "select" amount of equipment.
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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:45 pm

unfortunately she's more like this good ole Queen of England.....



we are a colony of mother england and all that.... tally oh old chap, bangers and mash for dinner.

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LGW

NB: I'll work on what Rule format I think will be quick and K.I.S.S. it needs to be stream lined etc.


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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:32 pm

What about a 2 stage tourney.
the qualifier is a 700pt game basic squads starting out.
the finals would be bigger games 1000 or 1400pt game.
This would make the 2nd rounds more challenging and be more of a grand event for the 2nd day.

Of course all lists for the army's would need to be submitted before the games so there is no cheating. Judges would need to look them over to make sure they are legal. Also the judging would need to be done by people who know the rules well.

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:41 pm

the bigger games simply won't work. its a time factor.

if we have small numbers entered it might work but trying to do a tournament with 60+ players you don't have time and expanding a small skirmish game in to the 1,000pts to 1,400pts its basically WH40k. you'd loose the small squad feel.

the highest amount I would consider would be between 750 and 850. this would give squads a bit of equipment and weapons to play with but small enough to manage in a tournament.

We could try 900 but that would also give XX officers skills. This would simulate that your squad is experienced. but we would need to set up some point system for each skill. you can choose XX skills on Day One and another XX skills for Day Two. this is to simulate again that squad gaining exp.

We use this system for Blood Bowl Tournaments. the crunch is you can't choose the Day two skills after you have done Day one it all needs to be pre-planed and sent through to the judges prior to the Tournament starting.

EG: Options

Squad Credits: 900
turns: D6+1
Day One Skills: 2
Day Two Skills: 2

Skills:[examples]
Gunfighter XXpts
Demolishing expert XXpts

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The Skills can only be taken for your officers. A max of two skills per officer is allowed.
so for example you could spend 500 credits on a small force but get them four awesome skills. Or give your squad the best equipment and guns and then some semi-ok skills.

I think we will see alot of power squads coming into tournament play. Eg those squads that have lots of armour and firepower but not many units.

should be an interesting weekend for sure.

please keep the ideas coming as a group we can create tournament rules that will flow and be quick and easy to use.

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:09 am

I think Keep It Simple.

You have to remember that you will not be playing the same person twice. You need to keep it simple as if we have any newbie entering and playing for the 3rd or 4th times, and do not know anything about the skill set yet.

Also what Squads will be made available??? Will there only be from the rulebook???.

People need to have a list for what they have in there collection. I know that the game is still in its infantcy, and not all the squads are there yet. But if we are to look at running a tournament then we need to have rules out asap for people to use.

Sorry if this sound mean and bossy but as an organiser I need to have the riles for what UI am running way ahead of time so then I can make it run smoothly.

Khalek

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:25 am

Khalek

Hey...again you are correct KISS is best. When I worked at the GW store our demo games would be 4+ to Hit and 4+ to Wound.

I believe we need to come up with a Demo game rules for such an instance.

No worries on sounding Bossy as you are asking the correct questions.

The event will be a year a way so we will have more squads but I would limit the squads to what could be brought the event.

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:42 am

Hey Da Bank.

I have been a tournament organiser for over 10 years and have been thinking about this alot (no lost sleep yet).

The club that I belong to was showen the Game at our Tournament (NiCon), and there was and still interest in it. They have been asking if certain squads (Marines, Necrons, Dark Eldar, Bugs, and CSM), are coming out. My reply is as its a new game system thery are working the bugs out of each race, so they can be playable. The guys are keen to wait (please hurry. LOL), for the Squads to come out.

My only concern is that are there going to be enough squads out there for us to hold a tournament, as everybody will want to use their own models from their on collections. As an organiser that is the only thing bothering me about running it.


Do not get me wrong as I really enjoy the game and can see HUGE benifits for the game world wide esp if we get a Tournament system worked out for it too.

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:23 am

Khalek: I feel the same way (more Squads... PLEASE HURRY... shit... they are mostly waiting for me. I better shut up! Just Kidding ) Seriously, the Squads are coming. There will be LOTS of them ready for NiCon. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Death Squads NICON 2011 Tournament!!!!   Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:04 am

Is there anyway I can get hold of any squads that are in development that I can use in my club?? As I got guys asking when new squads that they can use for there relative armies (collections)?????

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